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Post by brijinder on Oct 24, 2007 5:04:49 GMT 5
Razi saheb,You have done a yeoman's job by starting a thread"adeeb aur shair khamosh kion ? "It is really a need of the time that an honest and serious introspection should start in us and we all should boldy say NO to all that hatred which is being passed on in the name of religion.I am postinh one of my poems which carries that pain: Thannks once again. Regards
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Post by brijinder on Oct 18, 2007 5:19:03 GMT 5
FOUR THINGS YOU NEVER KNEW YOUR CELLPHONE COULD DO
T HINGS YOU NEVER KNEW YOUR CELLPHONE COULD DO ...
There are a few things that can be done in times of grave emergencies.
Your mobile phone can actually be a life saver or an emergency tool for
survival. Check out the things that you can do with it:
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* The Emergency Number worldwide for **Mobile** is 112 .* If you find
yourself out of coverage area of your mobile network and there is an
emergency, dial 112 and the mobile will search any existing network to
establish the emergency number for you, and interestingly this number 112 can be dialed even if the keypad is locked. **Try it out.**
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* Subject: Have you locked your keys in the car? Does you car have remote keys?*
This may come in handy someday. Good reason to own a cell phone:
If you lock your keys in the car and the spare keys are at home, call someone at home on their cell phone from your cell phone.
Hold your cell phone about a foot from your car door and have the person at your home press the unlock button, holding it near the mobile phone on their end. Your car will unlock. Saves someone from having to drive your keys to you. Distance is no object. You could be hundreds of miles away, and if you can reach someone who has the other "remote" for your car, you can unlock the doors (or the trunk).
Editor's Note: *It works fine! We tried it out and it unlocked our car over a cell phone!"*
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Subject: Hidden Battery power
Imagine your cell battery is very low , you are expecting an important call and you don't have a charger. Nokia instrument comes with a reserve battery. To activate, press the keys *3370# Your cell will restart withthis reserve and the instrument will show a 50% increase in battery. This reserve will get charged when you charge your cell next time.
AND
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How to disable a STOLEN mobile phone?
To check your Mobile phone's serial number, key in the following digits on
your phone:
* # 0 6 #
A 15 digit code will appear on the screen. This number is unique to your handset. Write it down and keep it somewhere safe. when your phone get stolen, you can phone your service provider and give them this code. They
will then be able to block your handset so even if the thief changes the SIM card, your phone will be totally useless.
You probably won't get your phone back, but at least you know that whoever
stole it can't use/sell it either.
If everybody does this, there would be no point in people stealing mobile
phones.
Please spread this useful information around
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Post by brijinder on Nov 1, 2007 4:40:15 GMT 5
For anything new,ability to go against the mindsets ,to explore new perspectives n courage to stand alone are needed. "Understanding needs the ability to see from different perspectives and courage to experiment and not just be a part of the herd.I give you an example: If,in the middle ages in western europe,you had preached,say,hygiene,what would have happened to you?You would have been seen as heretical,for a start-becaue only infidels washed.You would have been laughed at,castigated by reputable people for assuming that you were bettewr than they were,because you washed and they did not.If you taught about microbes,would you have got away with it?If you used THEIR mass-media,you would have been accused of immodesty and worse,if you tried to set up your own,you would be accused of sisnister intentions or worse..."
- --------------Idries Shah(From "Learning how to learn") On how the experimentativeness needs the courage to stand alone,to explore.To go against the conventions of any kind-may these be religious,literary or social,is very difficult and so is to see beyond what we call,Consensual truth"::
In my youth a teacher said to me:"if collecting together were the way to greater enlightenment,grains of sand would all have become saints,flocks of birds would break up andeach would become a spiritual teacher,sheep would excercise the function of the enlighten.: ----Idries Shah
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Post by brijinder on Oct 13, 2007 0:58:08 GMT 5
Few good quotes that came to me from a friend.How we never try to overcome our own prejudices or mindsets!!!!
IGNORANCE
"Being ignorant is not so much a shame, as being unwilling to learn." -- Benjamin Franklin
"The recipe for perpetual ignorance is: Be satisfied with your opinions and content with your knowledge." -- Elbert Hubbard
"Ignorance is the night of the mind, a night without moon or star." -- Confucius
"When ignorance gets started it knows no bounds." -- Will Rodgers
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Post by brijinder on Jun 29, 2007 1:20:13 GMT 5
I pray for ramish ji's early recovery.My best wishes are always there. Regards
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Post by brijinder on May 25, 2007 9:15:47 GMT 5
A case for azaad/nacri shayri
First of all,I apologise for writing in english in this urdu forum.As i have informed earlier too,urdu is not my mother tongue but my love.Poetry,in urdu,happens to me though many times I have to grope for the right words.But I am not very comfortable in urdu prose.I hope that the readers will be magnanimous enough to excuse me for this handicap of mine n I will be tolerated with grace. I came to love urdu poetry through the traditional lyrical poetry.I came to be mesmerised by Faiz,Sahir,Kaifi,Faraaz,parvin,Josh n what not.They started me on a wonderful aesthetic journey.With the passage of time as I explored,I came to know n then appreciate newer forms of poetry which donot adhere to traditional forms BUT are still valid modes of expression.This is human being's thirst for experimentation n exploration which brought in many forms in all branches of Art.Free verse has already got a very respectable place in almost all of the world's litrature. When i started browsing urdu poetry sites,one thing that struck me as highly disturbing was the way poetry which was not "pabaNd" of wazan n behr was being consigned to the amateuris sections.It was as if the ONLY criteria for good poetry was the mathematical precision of the arrangement of words.It was sad n amazing thing at the same time.When the litrature world over is undergoing explosive changes n experimentations,when our own great poets like Faiz,Faraaz,Kaifi,Parvin etc had attempted poetry in free verse,we the net denizens seemed to be living in past.We at few sites were refusing to acknowledge these winds of change. What are the aesthetic parameters of a good poem?To me,the main perquisite of a mature poem are the emotional intensity,intellectual clarity or psychological insights.A poem which is so intense that it pulsates and have a life of its own.It doesnt matter if it obeys the traditional principals of wazan n behr.We can find numerous poems which are very precise n mathematical in their arrangement of wobut are essentially forgettable poems. So my submission is to measure the poetry on some aesthetic parameter as is being done in other litratures.We have forums for mature poetry which categorically state that the main perquisite is "shayri jo wazan aur behr maiN ho"Plz let us follow the aesthetic and not mathematical parameters.If the great poets could attempt to compose in free-verse then we will be being just hypocrites not to do so.I have been posting free verse poems of such great poets recently just because of it. The idea is to start an honest n introspective debate within each of us.I hope I will succeed in that.This is my humble submission. Regards Brijinder"Sagar"
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Post by brijinder on Jan 20, 2008 3:55:45 GMT 5
TalkhiaN-3
Kya tujhko sunaauN haal-e-dil apna Kya tujhko dikhaauN apni kashmkash ka jahaaN Tu abhi is des say nawaaqif hai meray dost Toonay daikha hi nahi abhi koi maNzar tanhaa
Toonay piya hi nahi jo ghum-e-ishq-o-jahaaN ka sum Tu samjhayga phir mera tarapana kya? Toonay to guzaari hai apni umr mefiloN kay saayoN maiN Ho kay bayparwaa ya reh kay khaufzadaa Aur daikhee jo har chahray maiN aisi hi baighairat ki jhalak Toonay isay parakhany ki kabhi koshish hi na ki
Aaj tu aayaa hai meri duniya maiN Aur khara hai uljha-uljha KhwaaboN kay abr say darta darta Ahsaas kay sooraj say sehma-sehma Tak raha hai meri wusat-e-tanhai ko beyaqeeni say Daikh raha hooN maiN teri aaNkhoN maiN hairat kay nishaaN
Kya tujhko sunaauN haal-e-dil apna Kya tujhko dikhaauN apni kasmkash ka jahaaN?
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Post by brijinder on Jan 20, 2008 3:53:06 GMT 5
My reply to all that rubbish in urdu but without behr and wazan:
TalkhiaN-1
Tujhay aayaa na jo falak choonay ka andaaz Gunaah banaa di gayeeN parvaazaiN meri Ab mera qasoor hai kya teray ahsaas ki ghurbat Jo dabaatay ho bulaNd aawaazin meri
Jab tu mehfiloN maiN ho mast phirta tha Karti thi meri umr tanhaaioN maiN riyaaz Jab tu lagaa rahaa tha beparwaa kehkehay Samajh rahaa thaa main khyaaloN kay andaaz
MaiNnay ik ahud pay jiya hai zeest ka lamha lamha Tunay tab jisay junooN ka naam diya ZameeN jisko samajh na paayee AasmaaN nay uska ahatraam kiya
Teray rutboN ki nahiN ab koi kashish baqi Samjhay to yeh bhi hai ik kamaal-e-fun mera Jo bus riwaayutoN maiN dhal kar kay banay NahiN ab woh mouzoo-e-sukhan mera
MaiN to khaaboN kay geet banaauNga Aur wusa_t-e-afkaar say sajauNga Tujh maiN himmat ho to aa jaanaa Varnaa akaylay hi gungunaauNga --------------------------------------
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Post by brijinder on Jan 16, 2008 4:09:19 GMT 5
Yeh kaisi Majboori?
Maanaa k kuch juda sa hai rishta tera mera Maanaa k manzil shayud iska haasil nahiN Faqt kuch hi pal haiN teray-meray Maanaa k is mauj-e-ishq ka saahil nahiN
Teri zulfoN kay dasht main milay jo chaNd lamhaiN RiNd ho jauN tab teray laboN ka ras pi kar Aur doobaa rahuN teray mast nainoN ki waadioN main God main teri meri jaaN ! sir rakh kar
Uff! shiddat say ho meray aagosh main jab tu Mil jayay un lamhoN main umr bhar ka saqooN Teray badan ki khusbu bus jayay saaNsoN main meri Aur har samt ho bas teri ulfat ka fasooN
Woh teray chayray par khailtaa tabssum Woh tera meray paas hona to itraanaa Woh gaanaa tera meray liyay koi naghmaa Woh haNstay haNstay teri aaNkhoN ka dubdbaa jaanaa
Farz ki zanjeeroN main jakraa Teray ankahay swaaloN ka bhi gunhagaar hooN main Aur sun kar tarap jaataa hooN gehray tak Tera kehnaa dafaatun k tera pyaar hooN main.
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Post by brijinder on Jan 20, 2008 3:50:43 GMT 5
I will admit that it was my mistake to come back to this forum. But this is surely the last time.But before taking leave,I want to say few things very candidly which which I should have said long ago but my sense of decency always stopped me. 1.I have, on numerous occasions, equested to be excused for not writing prose in urdu as I am not fluent in prose and poetry happens to me.I have always said that I am NOT PROUD of it.At most of the sites,readers have been graceful enough to overlook this handicap of mine. It is like saying that if you are blind or a person with prosthetic legs,you have no right to be in the team attempting the scaling of Everest. It not only insults the challenged person but also conveys the shallowness and arrogance of the person giving judgment. Such challenged person have, indeed, scaled the Everest. 2.It is said that ignorance is bliss and I found it true here on this forum.I have also observed that ignorance is not only bliss but it is also arrogant, vicious, intolerant, snobbish and abusive. Few people have proved it here.Just because you have the arrogance and small-townish mentality which does not want to go on te adventure of ideas, does not mean that the world will stop for you.Wake up and study the comparative modern poetry of literatures of English and other major languages before passing such high-falutan judgements.Do not just remain self-congratulatory to one another.Free-verse poetry is a very valid form of poetry every where.Rather this is more dominant form of poetry these days.I love traditional poetry but also acknowledge that poetry does not end there.Your lack of study is not my fault. 3.Ask yourselves,who passed these stern and arrogant judgements,have done any intellectual,aesthetic or psychological journey?Ask yourselves what parameters you have to proclaim someone ARTIST?People like Mirza n Shaheen may be the masters putting words in perfect behr and wazan,but does that make them artists?This is merely a craft,if these judges can differentiate between the two.To me,being artist is not being a juggler. To be an artist means to go on endless journey of self-discovery,be an explorer of intellectual ideas,be an adventurer of different thought systems,to try to find not only the rigours of mind but also the wisdom of heart.Pampassion,tolerance,humanity,sense of humour,ability to laugh at oneself,experimentation,openness to new ideas- all this makes one an artist.Who amongus claim to be even possessing one of these quialities?None were visible whenever someone tried to pass judgements.This is more a group of grammarticians than a group of artists.Expand your intellectual,litrary and aesthetic horizons first and then try to sit on judgement.Little knowledge,as they say,is dangerous my friends.It may win great appreciatiosn from the people with te same limited exposure but you will be laughed at if you try this supercilious,”holier than thou “ attitude at any international gathering.Nietzsche rightly said,”Against ognorance,angels themselves tread in fear”.Scholarly debates on aesthetics are what you need NOT the childish belief in fairy tales.Grow up.I wished that by initiating dialogue on free-verse poetry,I will start an intellectually stimulating debate with peoplemfor and against,giving backing their arguments wirth scholarship,by citing the examples from the litratures of different languages and which will then expand into a debate on ART itself,going into the changing face of music,painting and what not.But what I got were few childish and petty minds who refuse to see the changes around them and insist that world around them should also conform to them.Friends,this is not how we grow-in arts,science or in relationship. 4.I am ready to go in an open scholarly debate about the modern urdu,hindi,Punjabi,English and possibly soe French and german(translated works).I am ready to enter into dialogue about aesthetics,about any major philosophical thought system or religious system,am ready for debate on various growing psychological systems,aboutvarious modern painting schools,about relativity,cosmology,evolution(at informed layman’s level).I am ready for all this on a SCHOLARLY level of debate but I have nothing to say to people who have not ventured beyond few books or few fixed ideas which they discuss at paan-bidi shop.Who among you who harshly pronounce judgments,is ready for that? 5.There should have been a moral outcry against openly abusive and intolerant stinking comments about religion by those two gentlemen.But what happened??Except Sunita sahebaWho herself is sikh,I suppose!) who came out with equally strong words against them.Razi sahib merely deleted that offensive mail.That is it!!!No comment.Who else was there,my friend? no one showed any courage of the conviction which we claim we have in our hearts!!!!To Khalid sahib,my crime for writing in English seems much bigger as he devoted almost the whole time on it.There were just few words about religious intolerance.And the focus from whole issue was very conveniently shifted to me.Some moral conviction is this,I must say. I have always been polite,graceful,humble and gentlemanly here but anyone with,little or no pretensions about art came and tried to kick me.But sirs and madams,I can not take it any longer.I will not allowanyone,who is without a sense of grace/humility/etiquettes or without any intellectual/aesthetic scholarship to trample me any longer.I have seen the beauties of the literature of various languages in so many colours that I will not let few blind people dictate/force me to say only black is beautiful. Stay in your well and be happy.I would rather be a nobody and the poorest BUT with the wings to fly in the sky than be a KING of the frogs of a well.Goodbye and stay well. P.S. I could not write all this in urdu prose If any of you who only harsly judges have the caliber then translate it for the benfit of Shaheens and Ateefs of the forum who do not seem much educated and are mere foul-mouthed slumlords.
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Post by brijinder on Jan 17, 2008 0:02:47 GMT 5
Plz sir,I ask you with folded hands not to cretae any ill-feelings again.If you say so,I shall simply leave this forum.As I have told many times that having read english litrature or all other subjects in english most of the times,I am more comforatble in it.As fas as poetry is concerned,I will say,it happens.I speak punjabi at home but there are always so-many english wirds that we use in it that it is no longer a pure punjbai conversation.And I am not very proud of it either but that is how it is. Regards brijinder
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Post by brijinder on Jan 16, 2008 4:08:05 GMT 5
I am thankful to you all for the kind words.It is just incidental that small poem turned out to be conforming to pabaNd tradition.I still believe that poetry does not end with the behr n wazan but has many other forms of expression.Just like formative painting is one form of expression and there are many others like abstract,surrealism,pointilism,cubism etc.I always request all that our love for the Rose should not make us prejudices against other beautiful flowers. Poetry ,for me,has been a journey to explore,to know,to crystallise my own thoughts and NOT just the mathematically precise arrangement of attractive words.This is not to offend anyone but to share my understandingof poetry. Hope I will be understood in the right spirit. Regards brijinder
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Post by brijinder on Jan 11, 2008 1:39:55 GMT 5
Sotay huay mehsoos kiyay shayad Meri nighaahoN say barsatay bosay Ki sharmaa kar ghany baaloN say Apnay chahray ko dhak liya usnay
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Post by brijinder on Dec 17, 2007 0:47:52 GMT 5
Lambi kaali raat
Woh kahkahoN ki Masti KahaN gayee who hasti? Woh khwaaboN pay jaadu karna Aur yaqeeN main badalanaa Sabaa say sur milanaa Tau kabhi taaroN say gungunanaa
Jab hosh nay aaNk kholi Afqaar say ki macholi Ab tu bhi udaas kyuoN hai Tanhai ka paas kyuoN hai
Maanaa shub nay ziNdgi pay teri Lagaai lambi pheri Magar raushni kay who daany Jiskay tujh main haiN khzaanay Bo day is kaali raat kay seenay par
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Tzaad
Dec 5, 2007 1:00:57 GMT 5
Post by brijinder on Dec 5, 2007 1:00:57 GMT 5
Tzaad
YaadoN kay bawaNdar say uth rahaiN hai Takh_yul ki sar zamiN pay Barq bau kay chamkta hai teri afsurda haNsee ka chehra Honay lagi hai teray naaz-o-karam ki rimjhim Meri takhleeq maiN main woh pehli barsaat si soundhi khusbu aa rahi hai
Tanha bahut tanha hai dil teray jaanay kay baad SaMbhla nahi wajood shorishoN maiN bhi doob jaanay kay baad Zamanaa to samjhtaa hai isay shauq-i-fitoor mera Har chahray maiN agar dhooNdta hooN teray wajood ki parchaiNaN Aur uqta kay uth aataa hooN phir apnay khyaaloN ki duniya maiN Siyaah aur siyaah ho jaati haiN phir meri tanhaaiyaaN
Ab tu bani hai kisi ga_ir ki zindagi ka unwaaN Ab teri raataiN uski baahoN main basi rehti haiN Ab na us ulfat ki haqeeqat baqi Phir bhi nadaan umeedaiN dil maiN baniN rehtiN haiN
Puchta hooN maiN aksar apni talkh raatoN say Ki kya hai aqaayud-i-mehabbat ki asaas Kya hai yeh rasoomaaat maiN lipta ik shuq-i-bekaar Kya hai yeh ishq kay naam pay paltay huay pazmurda ahsaas
Kya hai yeh mehabbat yeh mehabbat ki tashheeer Kadam bar kadam samjotoN ki besood taameer Kya hai yeh jis-o-rooh kay alag alag meyaar Kya hai parstish pay palta yeh falsafa-i-taqdeer
Thehar ab zauq-i-talab thehar Aaj na yeh baat baat uthaa Aaj ki raat barstaa hai gujishta mehabbat ka jaadoo Aaa ki raat kuch na keh kuch na sunaa ----------------
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