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Post by brijinder on Oct 24, 2007 5:04:13 GMT 5
Razi saheb,You have done a yeoman's job by starting a thread"adeeb aur shair khamosh kion ? "It is really a need of the time that an honest and serious introspection should start in us and we all should boldy say NO to all that hatred which is being passed on in the name of religion.I am posting one of my poems which I had posted earlier also n which carries that pain: INKI SADDAON SAY BACHNA Yeh nafarat ki hawaaon pay palnay waalay Ki mazhab jinkay hamesha khatray main haiN Apnay khyaaloN ko pahnaai hai khud salaasil Aur Dil quaid-tanha bahut kurakhat pehray main haiN Ki jnooN nay jinkay pehna hai mazhab ka naqaab Gunah-I-Qatl bhi jinko lagta hai swaab Inki sadaayoN say bachna meray azeezo! Yeh nanhay haathoN main baNdookayN day kar Unkay zehanoN main zehar ki fasal bo daiN Aur Yeh farda ki umeedaiN Phir bun jaayaN imroz ka khauf Apnay bemaar khwaaboN ko haqeeqat ka pa_irhun dainay kay liayay Tw_asub ka zahar baant rahay haiN yeh is daur kay masihaa Apni garmjoshi aur qumaqali kay sabub- Yeh maazi kay sach ko bana daiN haazir ka faryub Nafrat kay numaiNday haiN Yeh mazaahib kay agwaai Yeh shaitaan ki khufia fauj Ghoom rahi hai har dil-o-zehan kay galiyaaroN main Inki sadaaoN say bachna maray azeezo! Chinaar-qud pyaam agwaa kar liyay BonoN ki is jmaat nay Kabhi hindu to kabhi muslmaN bun kar Kabhi sikh to kabhi isaai ki shaql main Is jmaat nay phaiNka hai Tamaddun pay apna jaal Aur khauf kay is kohray main har baar KitnoN kay azeez la-pata ho gayay haiN Inki sadaaoN say bachna maray azeezo! Inki sadaaoN say bachna maray azeezo! --------------------------------- Poet: Brijinder "Sagar"
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Post by Rafi Tabasum on Oct 24, 2007 22:39:49 GMT 5
ahaaaaaaaaaa fikr angaiz khiyalaat Brijinder sahib
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Post by Atif Mirza on Oct 25, 2007 1:09:20 GMT 5
Kia achchi nasr ko taror maror kar doosri baar likhkha hai, B. Sagar nay
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Post by khalid on Oct 25, 2007 6:07:48 GMT 5
ahaaaaaaaaaa fikr angaiz khiyalaat Brijinder sahib mohtaram behr meiN kehney waaloN ke liye waaqaii ye fikr aNgeizi maqaam e fikr hai!
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Post by brijinder on Oct 26, 2007 4:51:14 GMT 5
If anyone knows how it feels to be hit by a brick,then he/she will know how I am feeling right now.You both are great persons and have just proved that.Words fail me to show my reactions.I will only say if this is "culture" and these are the manners,then I have no words to defend against myself against your diatribe I will take the help of few great men to convey what i feel. The test of good manners is to be patient with bad ones
Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength. ~Eric Hoffer
Children are natural mimics who act like their parents despite every effort to teach them good manners. ~Author Unknown
A man's manners are a mirror in which he shows his portrait.”
Johann Wolfgang Will you both pass on these traits of you to you children???Just ask this to yourselves. I am really sorry that I pretended to be an artist and dared to shared with you who are so great.Please pardon me ,sirs. Brijinder
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Post by khalid on Oct 26, 2007 6:25:44 GMT 5
If anyone knows how it feels to be hit by a brick,then he/she will know how I am feeling right now.You both are great persons and have just proved that.Words fail me to show my reactions.I will only say if this is "culture" and these are the manners,then I have no words to defend against myself against your diatribe I will take the help of few great men to convey what i feel. The test of good manners is to be patient with bad ones Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength. ~Eric Hoffer Children are natural mimics who act like their parents despite every effort to teach them good manners. ~Author Unknown A man's manners are a mirror in which he shows his portrait.” Johann Wolfgang Will you people pass on these traits of you to you children???Just ask this to yourselves. I am really sorry that I pretended to be an artist and dared to shared with you who are so great.Please pardon me ,sirs. Brijinder
mohtaram brijinder sb. aadaab!
haath joR ker arz karooN ga k ye mashq e sukhan e urdu ke safhey ka qertaas hai na k robin hood jaisey ''adeeboN'' ki baaqiyaat ki goreela mashq ka maidaan. khudaara ab to samajh jaiiye! teen baras se maiN aapko bil vaasta aur das basta aqalmandoN ko kaafi honey waaley ishaaroN se samjhaane ki saii e la haasil kerta raha hooN. aaj bilavaasta arz ker raha hooN shayad aap samajh jaaeN.
aap hameN angreizee tehzeeb k zerye tehzeeb met sikhaiiye. hamaari urdu tehzeeb kaafi zerkheiz aur mahaan adibba se bhari huii hai. itney baRey baRey naam haiN urdu k daanishkadey meiN. kaash ke aap ne kisi aik ko kabhi peRhney ki takleef gavaara ki ho. ager kabhi ghalati sey bhi aisa kiya hota to koii aik zaroor aapke nazdeek is qaabil hota k aap usko urdu shairee ke is safhey per 'quote' kerkey uski rooh ki tamaaniyat ka samaan faraaham fermaatey.
maiN bad tameez aur bud tehzeeb hooN, lekin ager tehzeeb e urdu se ta'alluq rakhney waala (mashriq zada) mujh per ye ilzaam lagaaey to sar e tasleem kham karooN ga.
aapko sirf apne ehsasaat se gharz aur unhi ka khayaal hai. na urdu zabaan peRhne waaloN se koii dilchaspi hai, na urdu zabaan se!
Johann Wolfgang kaun sa gangster, aur Eric Hoffer kaun lofer hai ham nahiN jaantey. aur na hi jaan'na chaahtey haiN. ho sakta hai ke shayad aap inhi logoN se apni naam nehaad aur maadar pider aazaad urdu (urdu sey maazrat) shairi likvaatey hoN!
aakhi meiN maiN urdu meiN urdu peRhne waaley dostoN ke jazbaat ko ber angeikhta kerne per (ager huey hoN to) maazrat chaahta hooN!
khaalid.
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Post by brijinder on Oct 26, 2007 7:17:08 GMT 5
I am saying this with folded hands,"please you are very very enlightened and cultured and I am no where near you,sir" I fell in love with urdu language for the humility and wisdom inherent in it.But sadly te language does not represent everyone.To me,wisdom is to be gathered ,no matter if I get it from "angrez",hindu,muslim or any culture or race.If you abhor so much the "angrez culture then you shoyld stop being a hypocrite and not use internet,T.V,fridge,pants,shirts,phones,cars,aeroplanes etc etc as all are the product of angreezi thought.Mygod!you even live in angerzi country,if I am correct!!!My love for Ghalib is qual to my love for Shakespeare.Do not worry sir,urdu language is strong enough to survive without you.And despite your best efforts,I will not come to your level of "culture".I am just stunned by this viciousness which you have carried in you for such a long time-three years by your own admission. I appeal to all the readers,if I have said anything ATALL which is beyond the call of manners,just let me know and I will openly apologise.And I also appeal the moderators and the administrators not to remain silent spectators to this mockery of "culture" and manners. This is a wonderful site and it should remain so.If you think I have done any thing wrong or have been disrespectful,just let me know openly,and I will take my leave of this site altogether and you can have scholars and cultured people like Atif sahes,Shaheen saheb and above all Khalid saheb.And I also request the same to the members to come out openly and tell me if I have gone beyond the call of courtsey,manners ANYTIME ANY WHERE ON ANY SITE??? I am just too torn,disturbed and stunned to the core of my soul at this moment. Regards Brijinder
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Post by Shaheen on Oct 27, 2007 15:39:54 GMT 5
Mr Brijinder Have some courtesy and write in Urdu. This is very pain giving act of yours. Really Khalid Sahib theek haiN aur tumharay mukhalif haiN. Yeh baat tumhaiN samajh nahiN aaye gi kiyukeh tum Maghrid Zada ho. Tum nay iss lafz "TUM" ko lay kar Alif Laila Hazar Dastan likh marni hai aur apnay aap ko tameez daar sabit karnay ki na-kaam koshish karni hai. Log theek kehtay haiN keh PathanoN aur SikhoN ki suwi hamesha atki rehti hai. Khalid sahib aik shareef aadmi haiN iss lieay tumhaiN aap janaB keh rahay haiN. Mujh maiN yeh salahiyat hai keh maiN tumhaiN Insha Allah seedha raasta dikhaooN ga. Agar jawab urdu maiN likhna hai tau shuq say warna apni angraizee bhagaarnay ki koi zarooorat nahiN. You should be apologised to every one especially Khalid Sahib. You are a short tempered maN. You are a selfish person who only knows to follow own deeds. Please speak no more on this topic. Remain in your status from now onwards.
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Post by Shaheen on Oct 27, 2007 15:47:06 GMT 5
Rafi Sahib! Gustakhi muaaf kia aap nasri shaeri ko shaeri tasleem kartay haiN. Ghissa pitta jawab 'KHAYAL ki ehmiat" wal yahaN matt likhiyay ga.
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Post by Atif Mirza on Oct 31, 2007 11:55:08 GMT 5
Jee Rafi Sahib mehsoos mujhay bhi hota hai keh aap bhi khayal ki ehmiyat per yaqeen rkhnay waloN maiN shamil haiN. Issi liyay brijinder ki taareef kartay haiN. Nasri baat shaeri nahiN hoti!
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Post by Rafi Tabasum on Oct 31, 2007 23:13:15 GMT 5
Rafi Sahib! Gustakhi muaaf kia aap nasri shaeri ko shaeri tasleem kartay haiN. Ghissa pitta jawab 'KHAYAL ki ehmiat" wal yahaN matt likhiyay ga. Shaheen sahib maiN shairi maiN siraf khayalaat ka hami nahi ALHAM U LILLAH aaj tak jo kuch bhi kaha paband hi kaha hay yhaaaN tak keh azaad nazm bhi nahi keh skaa magar baat yeh hay keh aap sadaa rozmaraa ki gutago maiN bhi kisi ki achi aur khoobsoorat baat ko shairana khayal keh saktay haiN to is qism kay khayalaat ko nazm na manaiN magar khayal to shairana ho sakta hay aap meray coments daekhaiN maiN nay achi nazm ya achi shairi nahi balkeh sirf khayal hi ki baat ki hay nasri nazm kay hwalay say maiN apni baat pehlay bhi keh chuka hooN
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Post by Rafi Tabasum on Oct 31, 2007 23:19:18 GMT 5
Jee Rafi Sahib mehsoos mujhay bhi hota hai keh aap bhi khayal ki ehmiyat per yaqeen rkhnay waloN maiN shamil haiN. Issi liyay brijinder ki taareef kartay haiN. Nasri baat shaeri nahiN hoti! Mrza sahib wohi baat jo maiN Shaheen sahib kay jwaab main keh chuka hooN shaid is hwalay say meray khayalaat ki wzahat ho gai ho gi
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Post by muzafarmohsin on Nov 1, 2007 13:11:20 GMT 5
very nice
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Post by khalid on Nov 1, 2007 22:36:10 GMT 5
mujhey afsos hai ke ham aik tasleem shuda haqeeqat per behec ker k usey mutnaaza banaaney ki saii e lahaasil ker rahey haiN. ham sab apni tavanaiiyaN ager kahiN aur istemaal kareN to munaasib ho ga! ye mashvara maiN aap dostoN ko apnee teen saala ser khapaii k baad de raha hooN, ager qubool uftad!
jis tarah maiN ne aajtak brijinder sb ki kisi takhleeq e bemisaal o bakamaal per tabsera nahiN kiya, aap tamaam hazraat bhi ager usey shaiiree kee mantaq sey deikhtey haiN to aainda isi amal ko sh'aar banaaeN! her insaan ko her insaan khush nahiN ker sakta!
shukriya!
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Post by khalid on Nov 1, 2007 23:09:18 GMT 5
Mr Brijinder Have some courtesy and write in Urdu. This is very pain giving act of yours. Really Khalid Sahib theek haiN aur tumharay mukhalif haiN. shaheen sb maiN brij ki zaat ka nahiN unki soch aur dhittaii ka mukhaalif hooN. un ki zaat kee had tak to maiN unki jald aur mukammal sehat yaabi ke liye her pal dua go hooN! Yeh baat tumhaiN samajh nahiN aaye gi kiyukeh tum Maghrid Zada ho. Tum nay iss lafz "TUM" ko lay kar Alif Laila Hazar Dastan likh marni hai aur apnay aap ko tameez daar sabit karnay ki na-kaam koshish karni hai. Log theek kehtay haiN keh PathanoN aur SikhoN ki suwi hamesha atki rehti hai. maiN aap se derkhaast karooN ga ke mafroozoN per qaaem lataaef ko kisi ki zaat ke liye isteimaal kerne se hameisha gureiz keeje!Khalid sahib aik shareef aadmi haiN iss lieay tumhaiN aap janaB keh rahay haiN. Mujh maiN yeh salahiyat hai keh maiN tumhaiN Insha Allah seedha raasta dikhaooN ga. bhaii sharaafat isi meiN hai k kisi ko pyaar se, ya khaamosh reh ker sikhaaya jaaey! hamaari zabaan e urdu k husn ko pamaal na kerna hi aqalmandi ko gee!Agar jawab urdu maiN likhna hai tau shuq say warna apni angraizee bhagaarnay ki koi zarooorat nahiN. iss baat per maiN aap ka bherpoor saath dooN ga. brij sb kertey haiN(so called)urdu shairi, aur javaab aisee angreizee maiN deitey haiN jis ko samajhne k liye dictionary ki zaroorat peRti hai! unke angreizee k is teRkey ka shauq poora kerne k liye aur bhi to forums maujood haiN!You should be apologised to every one especially Khalid Sahib. You are a short tempered maN. You are a selfish person who only knows to follow own deeds. Please speak no more on this topic. Remain in your status from now onwards. bhaii mujhey unki maazrat kee itni fikr nahiN jitni unki adabi aur fikri sehat yaabi ki hai!
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