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Post by Sukhanwar on Nov 27, 2008 13:12:39 GMT 5
Rafi Bhai!
Q 1. Kia nazm (Kissi bhi qism) ki adab maiN koi ehmiat nahiN rakhti?
Q 2. Nazm likhnay walay kum kiyooN hotay jaa rahay haiN?
Q 3. Mazahia shaeri ki adah maiN kia ehmiat hai?
Q 4. Mazahia shaeroN ko adab maiN khaS maqam kiyooN nahiN HaSil hai? Mirza sahib baray aham swalaat a,ay aap ki janib say
nazm apni jaga aik haqeeqat hay aur apna muqaam rakhti hay jis say inkaar mumkin nahi
Ghazal ki har dil azeez sinaf shairooN ki aksariyat ko apna deewana bana laiti hay isi liay nazm kay shair kam miltay haiN
maiN taba zaad mazah ka qail hooN kioN keh yeh bhi takhleeqee kaam hay jab keh lateefooN ko nazm karna koi takhleeqee kaaam nahi
mazahia shair aaj kal apni ahmiyat manwa rahay haiNaap ny kaha k mzaahia shair apni ehmiat manwa rahay hain laykin kia in ki waja say sanjeda shairi ko nuqsaan nahin pohanch raha ghazal ya nazm k mushaairon ki jaga mazaahia mushaairay frogh paa rahay hain shair wahan one man show kar k chalay jaatay hain
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Post by jooni on Nov 27, 2008 20:49:36 GMT 5
Rafi Sahib, Adaab. Kiya ye haqeeqat nahi hai keh Mazahia Nasr ko Urdu Adab main jo ehmiyat aur maqaam hasil hai woh Mazahia Sha'ery ko kabhi hasil nahi huva. Aisa kiyun hai?
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Post by Rafi Tabasum on Nov 27, 2008 23:49:57 GMT 5
Rafi Sahib, Adaab. Kiya ye haqeeqat nahi hai keh Mazahia Nasr ko Urdu Adab main jo ehmiyat aur maqaam hasil hai woh Mazahia Sha'ery ko kabhi hasil nahi huva. Aisa kiyun hai? Jooni sahib yeh baat kuch arsa pehlay tak to theek thee keh mazahia nasr ki nisbat mazahia shairee ko ehmiyat nahi milti thee magar baqaul Zia UlHaq Qasmee aaj kal mazahia shairee par ba izzat urooj hay
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Post by Rafi Tabasum on Nov 27, 2008 23:53:32 GMT 5
Mirza sahib baray aham swalaat a,ay aap ki janib say
nazm apni jaga aik haqeeqat hay aur apna muqaam rakhti hay jis say inkaar mumkin nahi
Ghazal ki har dil azeez sinaf shairooN ki aksariyat ko apna deewana bana laiti hay isi liay nazm kay shair kam miltay haiN
maiN taba zaad mazah ka qail hooN kioN keh yeh bhi takhleeqee kaam hay jab keh lateefooN ko nazm karna koi takhleeqee kaaam nahi
mazahia shair aaj kal apni ahmiyat manwa rahay haiN aap ny kaha k mzaahia shair apni ehmiat manwa rahay hain laykin kia in ki waja say sanjeda shairi ko nuqsaan nahin pohanch raha ghazal ya nazm k mushaairon ki jaga mazaahia mushaairay frogh paa rahay hain shair wahan one man show kar k chalay jaatay hain Razi bhai yeh haqeeqat hay keh mazahia shairee awaam maiN sanjeeda shairee ki nisbat jald maqbool ho jati hay magar aaj bhi sanjeeda shairee apnay urooj par hay mushairay bhi ho rahay haiN aur acha shaer apnay hissay ki daad zaroor wasool karta hay
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Post by ramishjaan on Dec 2, 2008 16:49:46 GMT 5
AOA qable ehtram Dr sahib aik bar phir mazratt ke bar por hisa nahi le pa raha ap ke mukalme jis ke liye bohat sharminda ho,n ap se ...................... umeed he ap maarf farmye ge
Dr sahib jis tarha aik Ghazal me kai mosam kai rang milte hai,n esa bhi dekha geya he ke bohat sanjeed klam me mazhiya ishaar bhi ghazal me paye jate hai,n phir mazhiya shaier aur Aam shaeri ko do adabi hiso me kio,n taqseem kiya geya he keya ghazal Sirf Ghazal nahi reh sakti kio,n ke Ghazal me to inqlabi romanwi aur tanziya ishaar hote hihai,n ?? waslam mukhlis ramishjaan
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Post by jooni on Dec 2, 2008 20:50:43 GMT 5
Dr.Sahib, Adaab.
Kiya Nasri Sha'eri ne aur Urdu Ghazal kay Husn ko Muta'assir Nahi Kiya hai? Agar KIya hai to Kis trah aur Kis Hadd tak?
Aur Nasri Sha'ri ka Mustaqbil kiya daikhtay hain aap?
Boht Shukriya.
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Post by Rafi Tabasum on Dec 2, 2008 23:50:26 GMT 5
AOA qable ehtram Dr sahib aik bar phir mazratt ke bar por hisa nahi le pa raha ap ke mukalme jis ke liye bohat sharminda ho,n ap se ...................... umeed he ap maarf farmye ge
Dr sahib jis tarha aik Ghazal me kai mosam kai rang milte hai,n esa bhi dekha geya he ke bohat sanjeed klam me mazhiya ishaar bhi ghazal me paye jate hai,n phir mazhiya shaier aur Aam shaeri ko do adabi hiso me kio,n taqseem kiya geya he keya ghazal Sirf Ghazal nahi reh sakti kio,n ke Ghazal me to inqlabi romanwi aur tanziya ishaar hote hihai,n ?? waslam mukhlis ramishjaan Shukria Ramish sahib bohat aham swal hay aap ka pehlay kisi daur maiN ghazal aik hi mezaj rakhti thee. ghazal kay ma,anee bhi us mezaj ki janib ishara karta hay magar aaj ghazal nay bohat say rang apnay andar samait liay haiN maiN aap ki baat say ittefaaq karta hooN magar Ghazal ki taqseem ab us kay ash,aar kay majmooee mezaaj ko mad e nazar rakh kar karna paray gi majmooee mezaj agar taghazul rakhta ho to ghazal ko roomanwee ghazal ka naam diya jata hay isi tarah mazahia ghazal bhi apna eleheda muqam rakhti hay isi liay ghazal ko aur ghazal kay shairooN ko us ki shairi kay majmooee mezaj kay hawalay say yaad rakha jata hay
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Post by Rafi Tabasum on Dec 3, 2008 1:57:23 GMT 5
Dr.Sahib, Adaab. Kiya Nasri Sha'eri ne aur Urdu Ghazal kay Husn ko Muta'assir Nahi Kiya hai? Agar KIya hai to Kis trah aur Kis Hadd tak? Aur Nasri Sha'ri ka Mustaqbil kiya daikhtay hain aap? Boht Shukriya. Jooni sahib nasari shairi buniadi taur par shairi hay hi nahi to ghazal ko muta,asar karnay ki kia baat? Ghazal sadaa bhaar sinf e sukhan hay nasari shairi ka mustaqbil tareek nazar aa raha hay mujhay
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Post by Zagham Abidi on Dec 9, 2008 19:05:43 GMT 5
rafi sahab nazm k silsilay main jo jo tajarbat hoay un may khasoosan azad nazm bohot kamyab hoe.aur is ki ahmiat ko tasleem kia ja chuka hay lakin azad ghazal k silsilay main mazhar imam say lay ker adeem hashmi tak jo bhi tajarbat hoey wo sub nakami say dochar hoey . aap k khayal main aisa keun hoa.
dr zagham abidi
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Post by Rafi Tabasum on Dec 11, 2008 12:06:06 GMT 5
rafi sahab nazm k silsilay main jo jo tajarbat hoay un may khasoosan azad nazm bohot kamyab hoe.aur is ki ahmiat ko tasleem kia ja chuka hay lakin azad ghazal k silsilay main mazhar imam say lay ker adeem hashmi tak jo bhi tajarbat hoey wo sub nakami say dochar hoey . aap k khayal main aisa keun hoa. dr zagham abidi Dr Sahib Ghazal aik sada bahaar aur mukkamal sinaf e sukhan hay is ki haiat maiN tabdeeli ab mummkin nahi hay haaN khyalaat aur bahoor kay hwalay say tajarbaat hotay rehtay haiN isi liay is maiN azaad shairi ki gunjaish nahi hay
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Post by uzair143 on Dec 29, 2008 14:18:50 GMT 5
as salam alikum sub se pehle to mazrat k main der se is section ki taraf aiea or sawalat nahi poch saka per jin sathiyoun ne sawalat kie wo bout hi ache they or rafi sb ne un se b ache jawab die.bout acha laga in ka intervew perh ker.
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